We want to date, not hire…
You read it right. We want to date, and find a match. For several months we’re in San Francisco, we tried all conventional methods of finding people that we can work together with, we hired, but couldn’t find our 5th member yet. Let me explain why we want to date, not hire…
Because first of all, Koding team, didn’t come together with hires. Sinan and I first made the first site back in 2009, it was our first attempt to make something totally on our own. Sinan and I, had no money and had no intentions of making money using this thing. We made it for ourselves and for everybody else who was suffering trying to learn stuff, getting lost configuring servers. We launched a version that would work for a few people. When we opened it however, we saw hundreds of people rushing in overnight..
So we realized, we needed help – serious help, much earlier than we thought. Our servers were burning, I literally sat down front of the servers and restarted apache nights in a row. That’s the only thing I could do, recompiling php and apache was something Linus could do, I couldn’t.
Users were coming in, we were so happy – and one day, someone created a Linux Group on Koding, and he sent me a message “do you need help?” I replied in a few seconds, otherwise servers would have crashed before I could hit send. I said “yes, but we’re also broke :(” he replied “who asked for money? :)”. That’s how we met our awesome sysadmin, Aleksey. His english wasn’t perfect, and he was also shy about it, so he never spoke on skype with us, for 2 years, we always chatted. When we got funded, he came to SF, we totally didn’t know how he sounded like. Then we met, I gave a big hug to him. His english was actually much better than he made us think, he just called git “jit” that was it :) He’s still with us, and comes to SF rides his bike. Now I can’t imagine Koding without him.
8 months earlier, when we finally decided to rewrite the whole stack with nodejs and coffeescript. I joined IRC channels, and was asking questions here and there. There I met Chris, his answers were quite awesome. I said to myself, how awesome it’d be if we worked together and I asked him if he could teach me Coffeescript for starters. When I asked about his hourly rate, it was an amount that I couldn’t afford at the time if I was to hire him fulltime. We worked half time for a month anyway, it was probably more than half of my salary, if paid in full. It was so much fun working with him. I went ahead, proposed half of his rate, and all the remainders paid upon funding, that was the best I could do. He generously agreed. I was so happy and grateful. Happy because he loved what we were doing, grateful because not a lot of people would sacrifice that much. I couldn’t be happier.
We worked 8 months with that, and he made Koding possible. Without him – we could never be here with this product. We saw each other in person for the first time after we got funding, he came to New York from Portland, crashed on the couch in our living room for a week, then stayed in Airbnb’s, leaving Milo, his dog, that he loves so much, with his sister. A month later we moved to San Francisco together, he went and picked up Milo and we picked our first office together. I still remember, when we met first time in New York, right after saying hi, I just continued from our last chat on skype and said “hey dude – you know I thought about that graph module, I think we should do … ” he said “wait, this is the first time we see each other :)” my immediate reaction was to correct him “No, don’t we know each other for years?” it took me a second to realize he was right. I said “That’s true”, still trying to comprehend the feeling, how close we got, working every day, doing so much together yet having never met in person.
Chris is definitely the best engineer I’ve ever worked with, and I’ve worked with quite a few. Although Sinan and I co-founded and implemented Kodingen (first version of Koding), Chris now holds the title “Co-founder and Director of Engineering” of Koding. He deserves every letter in that title. He co-founded Koding with us, worked days and nights for Koding to be an amazing product that he’s proud of.
Great things in life happen when people come together for reasons other than money and securities. I know that for sure now. We all enjoy those, but great work is not a result of high paying job. It may be quite the opposite.
I know, there are great people who are out there, who we could make a great match. People that want to make a difference. People with great skills, maybe without a resume, maybe with an awesome resume; feeling conflicted doing what their heart desire vs the next opportunity they have at a big company, feeling conflicted, between pay and making a change, becoming someone vs becoming a cog in a machine.
You may be a great UI/UX guy, an amazing C/C++/Go/Nodejs/Ruby/Java engineer, awesome biz dev guy or a sysadmin. We decided that we won’t make job posts anymore. Because we want to date. We want to love your work, and we want you to love our work back. We want to respect you so much that we will never have to tell you anything about when you come to work, when you leave, what you’re working on. We want to respect you so much that you will know what to do next, and you will do it the best with needing no meetings nor managers, and you will tell others what needs to be done when you feel like it.
We are onto something big, and we are only 4, we all code.. We are very proud of what we built with a small team. We also are not in need of help, but we can use some serious help. Not a noob help, not good intended but no-skills help, serious professional help. Come be our 5th member, come help us, like you would help Nikola Tesla, like you would help Einstein if you met him, just like you would do anything if Steve Jobs wanted you to help him when he was building Apple.
Remember, if they ever needed your help with a blog post like this, at the time they needed your help, they would be just like us, nobody, yet. And you’d be just like yourself, nobody, yet. Faced with a very similar decision. If you postponed your decision, and decide not to help then, they would become who they are, whole world would be on their fingertips. You wouldn’t even hear if they ever needed anything anymore. And you, would have had a few more paychecks, still needing to pay the rent, still dreaming about the decision you always want to make, just a few years older this time.
Right. You couldn’t do it with them, come do it with us. Let’s try to carry their vision forward. Let’s give a 12 year old with a cheap laptop in a far away country a chance to learn programming, and become a developer that we need. Let’s make companies who spend weeks on-boarding their new hires, do that in minutes. Let’s let companies hire outside of their offices as conveniently. Let’s make cloud computing available for masses so 2 years later, you and I can build Siri or Google glass, writing code in the browser, executing it in 1000s of CPUs, with a few bucks we can spare.
We don’t want to impress with lame employee-entertainment. No, we don’t have a ping pong table and we are not ‘sooo much fun’ people. We do amazing work together, and we’re damn proud of it. Our biggest joy is when we release, we drink a few beers and celebrate while watching amazing response we get from our users. We love those moments… For other fun, we do whatever we want, whenever we want. We all know that our purpose is not having fun paintballing each other, our purpose is to build something that world will remember us by. That’s why we came together, that’s what makes us happy. Yet we go, do paintball – it’s fun :)
We know you exist, because our team is a manifestation of that. We know you’re out there, getting bored reading job descriptions, maybe thinking about what you can do on your own, then thinking about your family and your rent that doesn’t let you bet everything you have, and worse, you can’t afford to fail, which is a big part of this game.
Now you have a choice in the middle, a project that provides an environment to 60k developers, serving 40k sites already, 13k people waiting to receive their beta invites to their new site, when they send invites, they see more than 70% of people come and join. An amazing stat that only a few startups can see, and many dream of. Which means that they have proved it, and now with your help, they can go big! Or without your help. Either way. It’s totally up to you.
We brought Koding so far, and we’re continuing our dream happily and so successfully. And the best part, this time we’re not broke, we have plenty of money. It’s just that, we want to know when you ask this question to yourself “I can get a great job, but do i want money, or do i want to make a change?” that your answer is the latter. And if that’s the case, no matter where and who you are, let’s have a date.
Devrim
Use the contact link to reach me, i’m on the other side of it.
Jun 28, 2012 @ 03:44:25
Wow.. such an amazing story you guys have there.. If only i have enough skill to work with u guys.. i just started learning about web developing and fortunatelly read this inspiring article that makes me motivated.. maybe someday we could share beer on same table together. we’ll see.. thanks once again for this wonderful story of yours :)
Jun 28, 2012 @ 05:27:38
Hey buddy, loved what you wrote. Do let me know if I can be of any help.
Jun 28, 2012 @ 06:00:56
What a beautiful and sincere post. I’m not your guy, but I’ll definitely tell all my friends about you; you’re pretty cute after all.
Best of luck to you.
Jun 28, 2012 @ 06:35:14
I love this post! Especially because in my head I imagined someone deciding to move on and the entire Koding team showing up outside their bedroom with a boombox to try and sing them back and respark the love!
Jun 28, 2012 @ 09:48:50
your post inspires me. i share your mindset. i hope you can find someone to complete your team. good luck!
Jul 02, 2012 @ 10:58:55
Let me know if you need any help because I can be a great employee!
Jul 02, 2012 @ 17:23:17
A very inspiring post. I would love to help you guys, though I fear my skillset isn’t quite up to par yet. I havn’t had the chance to try out your product (still waiting on that beta key ;-)), but I know it’s definatelly going to be something worth waiting for! Keep up the good work guys, and the best luck to you!
Jul 09, 2012 @ 00:53:08
Good post. I am a .Net developer. If you felt that, I can do something for you let me know.
Jul 18, 2012 @ 12:53:12
As Jeremy wrote: this is a very inspiring post. I really loved it.
Great attitude, awesome product: your company is going to rock.
If you’re happen to be looking for a developer turned into a business guy, well, drop me a line. Workin’ with you guys would be a pleasure, I mean it.
In the meantime, koding IS a great platform :-)
Jul 24, 2012 @ 07:52:21
Great post you guys. Just remembered this site when I used it six months ago, now that I am away from my own PC, wanting to code something while having nothing to do (DJANGO ARGHHH).
Although I love this post so much I can’t even start telling you how much. My dream is to do just this, but not exactly. I too dream of the perfect team coming together to build something they believe in.
I’m just 18, but a guy can dream, can’t he?!
I’m not an experienced programmer, since I have only worked on a few projects and worked as a head programmer for a startup in LAMP stack for a year, but now I have stopped treating my true passion as a hobby, gave it the significance it deserves in my mind, and started coding the hell of a few wonderful ideas I had in mind.
I hope someday in the future, I’ll be in a team like you guys.
Godspeed Koding,
Daniel (saga!).
Jul 25, 2012 @ 23:42:46
Truly amazing story! I hope you find your 5th man soon as I can’t wait to see everything finalized and running (and see the community grow). This will go big, and I wish u all best of luck! To bad I’m still a student :sadface:
Grtz,
Simon
Jul 27, 2012 @ 04:39:57
Your works are really beautiful.I congratulate you cordially. Actually, I would like to write a lot of good things but my English is not enough. Loves and congratulations from Turkey.
Jul 27, 2012 @ 07:11:00
Touched my heart :’) I would love to help, but I am only a noob in terms programming and web developing :( But of course, I will grow up, I will learn a lot, thanks to you guys for inspiring me and working for giving us better tools for learning! May be then I will be able to help out you, I sure will!
Best of luck!
Jul 27, 2012 @ 07:47:13
Good and motivated story.
hope to work and drink some tea together.
Good luck…
Haşim Ş.
Jul 27, 2012 @ 10:27:17
Great story guys! Very inspiring. Best of luck!
Aug 03, 2012 @ 17:16:27
Amazing guys amazing. This is what I believe in as well. The vision, passion and determination goes a long way than paying X a high paid salary. All the best for the future.
Aug 08, 2012 @ 13:31:12
I am impressed. Impressed because I have always thought that I was the only one thinking that money is not everything. People are giving me weird looks when I tell them that I want to quit my job, just to follow my passion and study computer science. I’m 21 years old, I have a job and I don’t earn bad (55k USD). However, I am not happy. I’ve read your post and it gave me faith. There are still people who want to build something great without the intent of getting rich and wealthy from it. Because building stuff and being fully satisfied is priceless. You can’t imagine how badly I’d like to help you out with node.js. However, I feel the strong urge to study computer science and work in the research industry.
I wish you the very best for the future. You really deserve it.
Adem from Germany
Aug 09, 2012 @ 00:28:55
Inspiring +1
Aug 09, 2012 @ 05:39:25
I’m an asshole but I’m good at what I do. No? Pity. I will be part of the horde following your adventure.
What is missing to help you? Well, instructions to get started helping you.
Aug 28, 2012 @ 20:24:10
That’s really the best motivational story I’ve ever read …
You talked about a thing ” unfortunately ” , most of us consider it as bigg problem …
You have silicon valley , we don’t have ,
You have a lot of investment companies ,
You have a lot of risk capital partners , we don’t have !
but after reading this article.. I realized that all of these things doesn’t a have a great importance ,
because with Internet we can always achieve our goals , we can find great people :) ,,
trust me , I met and know a lot of innovators , but they are still saying this sentence ! i don’t have opportunities to continue in this !
i hope i could publish this article everywhere !
who knows, I can be a part of this story a day ! thanks for this !
Sorry for my english ,, my situation is the same as Aleksey :) ,,
Aug 31, 2012 @ 03:03:51
Best job ad I have ever seen
Sep 02, 2012 @ 03:25:18
hmm, I would like to “DATE” with YOU!
Sep 02, 2012 @ 13:40:32
*Let us helps..*
It would be nice to helps and shares each others.
How can we find the whole concepts, timelines, tasks and goals for Koding?
Let we read and take some parts..
Sep 06, 2012 @ 22:55:26
I think you should give your community some coding goals and challenges to help your framework. Since you are planning on open sourcing it anyway, we can be in charge of helping debug, documenting, sample code, etc. I mean dating is nice and it’s good to be on board, but you guys need a lot more than just one rockstar to make this REALLY shine ;)
Sep 08, 2012 @ 10:16:23
Hi
i have ready your story, that is awesome, If still you are searching a right person for your team, then i’m the only who have a excellent experience and full of energy. Please leave me a mail on my email ID i’ll send you my resume at that time. I’m writing here less b’cos i believe in much work.
Thanks.
Salim Mohammad
Sep 10, 2012 @ 02:49:38
Great post. I really like the open communication, very inspiring.
I’m in love with your company, but I’m not in search of a job.
I hope you’ll find the great people you deserve.
Sep 17, 2012 @ 20:53:23
What a great story to tell. I am so moved :)
I just got the invitation today and it’s good to be here. Thank you, Devrim :)
Koding is a cool idea with cool appearance. Way to go, team! I am so proud of all of you :)
Sep 18, 2012 @ 13:47:42
Just wanted to add my voice to the choir here!! I stumbled upon your product on Google Apps and it was a concept I really liked, now after the invite I can actually start playing around. your story is motivating and while I am an experienced Linux and C guy (now working on arduino projects), I found your project awesome and the story really inspired me. I wish you best of luck and please contact me if I can help in anyways even if for small jobs in the odd hours.
Sep 30, 2012 @ 04:25:35
Hey, guys. Liked reading about your project, it seems very interesting to me.
I’m 26 from Israel, but currently live in Ukraine, working here in a start-up, developing some new social network.
I feel like doing something big since university graduation and I had this same (maybe not exact same, but very similar) idea to create some kind of a place for all developers in the world to be united (have more details in my head though…). As I saw your project I was amazed by how it’s all done here, it gave me a lot of inspiration. Anyway, I feel like I’m in the same direction with you guys, and if you need any help, just contact me (No money asked).
Oct 15, 2012 @ 07:41:19
Love your product, wish I could help. In the meantime I will just keep sharing Koding with anyone who will listen.
Dec 12, 2012 @ 18:37:46
Looks like a great project, good luck!
Jan 07, 2013 @ 13:48:49
Great story! I’m sharing the same beliefs. I would like to help out.
Jan 24, 2013 @ 05:24:37
I wish I could apply. I don’t feel good enough yet. Ive had some experience with PHP, picked up Node.js in the last three months. Working on bigger things on the platform. I’m also a decent designer, and UI guy.
Lets just say that I’m not a good enough a developer yet to really stand out. Nor am I the best designer around. But I have a large number of talents, and I’m a pretty decent at a lot of things.
Now I feel I would be of great help when you didn’t have the money. I could play a number of roles in a team. But now, i’m just a generalist, not good enough… Yet.
Feb 12, 2013 @ 02:17:49
Great project! Good luck!
Mar 28, 2013 @ 19:15:19
Great Post! Very Inspiring :), one of the reason Koding project got me interested was “Coding on Cloud!!” how amazing is that and that too in multiple languages. Imagine that with Koding anyone can code on any platform even on android tablets and ipads since its on Cloud. Great project guys, keep up the good work.
Mar 29, 2013 @ 19:14:17
Speechless, you are awesome!
Apr 25, 2013 @ 11:00:08
So moving and arrogant at the same time. I appreciate the honesty, though.
Great post. I heard about your startup in This Week in Startups (I don’t listen to it usually, just that one episode) and now I see how much you grew since then.
Anyway, good luck.